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ASTHOConnects: Ask the Experts Panel on JUULs in Schools - Shared screen with speaker view
Alicia Smith
41:22
Hello everyone, please help us out and mute your phone lines and computer audio. We are getting a significant amount of background noise. Double check that you are muted; thank you!
Tabetha Gerdner
42:22
Is there a way for the moderator to mute everyone?
Eboneka Coleman - ASTHO
43:30
Thank you for joining ASTHOConnect: Ask the Experts JUULs in Schools! Please use this chatbox to post any questions you may have for the speakers. Also, you may use this chatbox to share resources with the group.
739 183 158
47:34
We need to remember that JUUL is a brand name and there are variety of vape tools - all need to be addressed when we educate students and parents.
BanzhafMD
48:18
Please ask Sally Herndon to speak up, thank you
Alicia Smith
50:38
Hello everyone, please help us out and mute your phone lines and computer audio. We are getting a significant amount of background noise. Double check that you are muted; thank you!
kgoble
50:39
I'm having a difficult time understanding Sally at times
Becky Voorhies
50:58
I am having a hard time as well
Gretchen
51:06
Me too.
Angela Vanveckhoven
51:18
The panelists need to mute themselves when they're not talking, too.
kgoble
51:22
is she on a speaker phone?
Jose Medina Torres
51:28
Yes, there is too much background noise. Is there a global mute from the administrator's end?
Megan Moore
51:32
Yes, there are many people on their phones and cannot see this chat box.
Teresa Detweiler
52:57
I'm scheduled to do a presentation on vaping products for a local school district's transportation department because last year they experienced many students vaping on the buses. If anyone has any resources specific for bus drivers to help address this issue that would be great. Thank you.
cgene
56:34
Thanks for stating that Rick! Trauma informed approaches will be key to addressing youth e-cigs/vape use
Ann Staples
01:04:02
More stories are coming out every day about individual teens who have had terrible problems with Juul and have quit. Does Haily think having a teen tell their own story about that would be helpful? How about a media campaign that includes those kinds of true stories?
Gretchen
01:04:29
What resource did Hailey just say?
Megan
01:04:31
what is the name of that presentation?
Becky Hatlee
01:04:34
What was the name of the resource she just said?
BAYHAKK
01:04:35
Haley - in your opinion, do youth care about nicotine addiction
Kmendenhall
01:04:42
What resource?
athomas
01:04:43
Can we share Hailey's presentation/curriculum she mentioned?
Kris Minard
01:05:04
Taking Down Tobacco
Kris Minard
01:05:04
https://www.takingdowntobacco.org/
Teresa Detweiler
01:05:05
It's called Taking Down Tobacco
CAShifler
01:05:09
I did not get the name of Hailey's resource either.
Sarah Allison
01:05:18
It's called Taking Down Tobacco
ameliaanderson
01:05:22
Any information to be shared on the health effects of secondhand aerosol?
Ann Staples
01:06:57
Well said, Rick!
Sally Herndon
01:07:23
Hailey recommends Taking Doen Tobacco from Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids
Alicia Smith
01:07:25
Thank you all for the engagement and questions in the chat box. We will try to address each of these and also share the resources you put into the chatbox in the the post-meeting materials. Thank you for joining us today!
belindab
01:07:57
it was impossible to understand what the last speaker said
bonnieh
01:08:21
The evidence is still coming out on secondhand aerosol. But there is evidence that it affects the lungs. There is also evidence about 3rd hand aerosol…that e-cig aerosol goes on clothes, carpets, couches, etc and turns into a toxic chemical
Megan Moore
01:10:27
The National Academies of Sciences report does talk a little about second hand aerosol. This is a nice summary of the long report.
bonnieh
01:10:30
see http://med.stanford.edu/tobaccopreventiontoolkit.html for the Tobacco Prevention Toolkit
Gretchen
01:11:11
Will all of these resources and links be emailed out as well?
Alicia Smith
01:11:24
Yes, we will share all resources mentioned and shared in the chat box.
bdavis
01:11:53
What is Aspire?
Ann Staples
01:12:58
https://www.mdanderson.org/about-md-anderson/community-services/aspire.html
Ann Staples
01:13:42
There's the link. ASPIRE is a tobacco education curriculum from MD Anderson that can be used as an alternative to suspension. Schools can track students' participation.
Theresa Z.
01:13:54
I appreciate the importance of sharing accurate and up-to-date information with parents, teachers and young people. While education plays a role, it is not in itself effective as prevention. Can you share any specific prevention strategies being pursued in communities across the country?
Kris Minard
01:14:04
Aspire
Kris Minard
01:14:06
https://www.mdanderson.org/about-md-anderson/community-services/aspire.html
Sally Herndon
01:14:10
TRUTH This is Quitting. Text DITCHJUUL to 88709
Ellysse Boughey
01:15:20
What are some good ways to promote these teen focused texting cessation services? What kind of messages and materials would you recommend (e.g. stickers, phone popsockets, etc.)?
Gretchen
01:15:45
Where will people be able to access the "alternative to suspension" resource that is coming soon?
Glew ASTHO
01:16:07
Tobacco Prevention Toolkit: http://med.stanford.edu/tobaccopreventiontoolkit.html
Ann Staples
01:16:24
truth has artwork for palm cards and flyers for "This is Quitting."
Glew ASTHO
01:16:37
FAQ page: http://med.stanford.edu/tobaccopreventiontoolkit/about/FAQ.html
bonnieh
01:16:48
If you follow us/the Toolkit on social media - facebook or twitter, we will announce when the alternative to suspension curriculum comes out. But you can already use the Toolkit now for education
Glew ASTHO
01:17:03
Toolkit flyer:https://office365stanford-my.sharepoint.com/personal/rceb3_stanford_edu/_layouts/15/onedrive.aspx?id=%2Fpersonal%2Frceb3%5Fstanford%5Fedu%2FDocuments%2FEmail%20attachments%2FToolkit%5FFlyer%2Epdf&parent=%2Fpersonal%2Frceb3%5Fstanford%5Fedu%2FDocuments%2FEmail%20attachments
Mike Whitaker
01:17:28
Ohio just recenly increased the age to purchase tobacco and ENDS to age 21. Is there any data from states that have peviously adopted Tobacco21 laws and how it's addressed youth use? Is there a decline in tobacco use?
bonnieh
01:17:44
My Life My Quit is a free and confidential program to help teens quit vaping and other tobacco products available in Colorado, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, North Dakota, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Utah. Learn more by visiting MyLifeMyQuit.com or texting “Start My Quit” to 855-891-9989. #MyLifeMyQuit #StartMyQuithttps://www.mylifemyquit.com/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=soc&utm_campaign=TPT
Glew ASTHO
01:18:10
Newsletter: http://med.stanford.edu/tobaccopreventiontoolkit/about/newletters.html
Liz McGuire
01:18:20
So what conseqences should schools do with students who are juuling?
Tara Weston
01:19:18
Oregon evaluated their T21 law and found recent initiation of tobacco among youth decreased after the law went into effect. Report summary: https://www.oregon.gov/oha/PH/PREVENTIONWELLNESS/TOBACCOPREVENTION/Documents/Oregon-Tobacco-21-Impact-Evaluation-Report.pdf
jhamilton
01:20:19
How have or might schools engage other community partners, elected officials, etc. to address the pro-vape/pro-tobacco messaging in the community? I agree that this epidemic is everyone's responsibility.
Megan Moore
01:20:59
I'm sorry, but that cellphone in the background is very distracting.
Taylor K
01:21:56
We have many teachers asking how they can better identify when students are vaping in the classroom? What should they be on the look out for?
Theresa Z.
01:22:26
What is the most appropriate and helpful role for school nurses in addressing nicotine addiction that is within their authority?
jbrawne
01:22:33
Our providers in our local hospital have volunteered to teach Tar Wars, etc.
Deanna England
01:22:35
A whistling sound. A sweet smell. Sometimes you'll catch them with a toilet paper roll stuffed with a dryer sheet.
Deanna England
01:22:50
That was for Taylor K
Deanna England
01:23:13
They blow the aerosol into the dryer sheet to catch the smell.
Taylor K
01:23:50
Thanks Deanna, had not heard about the dryer sheet!
Deanna England
01:24:26
You're very welcome. My colleague works with school resources officers, so we find out what they've discovered, including the most popular devices in our area.
athomas
01:24:40
Are there any recommendations for NRTs for adults who are vaping? Considering that the nicotine amounts may vary by devices?
Rick Kraus
01:25:18
I have found that many students put lotion on their desk while juuling to mask the smell/scent of the juul...- Hailey
Ann Staples
01:26:16
And there's this: https://vaprwear.com/
Kayla
01:26:39
we've noticed kids get fidgety (scratching, pursing lips etc) when they havent taken a hit from their vaping device in a while
Glew ASTHO
01:26:46
My Life My Quit is a free and confidential program to help teens quit vaping and other tobacco products available in Colorado, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, North Dakota, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Utah. Learn more by visiting MyLifeMyQuit.com or texting “Start My Quit” to 855-891-9989. #MyLifeMyQuit #StartMyQuithttps://www.mylifemyquit.com/?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=soc&utm_campaign=TPT
fehram
01:27:20
Does anyone have experience implementing SBIRT (screening, brief intervention, referral to treatment) into their schools that would include screening questions related to tobacco use/vaping?
Teresa Detweiler
01:29:18
Has anyone had to figure out ways to help parents who are the ones buying these products for their children? Many parents are upset when these devices are taken away from students because the parents are the ones buying them.
snw0303
01:29:40
It is never too early for prevention!
CAShifler
01:30:35
In our schools, the devices go to the School Resource Officers.
bonnieh
01:30:37
on the Toolkit we have information for parents too…under the resource tab. We are also adding more info for parents soon
Teresa Detweiler
01:31:13
Any legal/policy updates especially regarding the FDA ruling on electronic cigarette devices. (I just read an article about two teenagers who testified in Congress about JUUL representatives coming to their 9th grade classroom to discuss the safety of the JUUL device. I think there are other lawsuits, so I’d like to know more about these regulations or penalties.)
Gretchen
01:32:22
Tobacco 21 is a policy option, but don't forget about other evidense-based policy options such as restricting flavored tobacco products (including menthol) to age-restriced tobacco retailers!
agallegos
01:32:22
what is the name of the opioid program in south carolina Sally is talking about?
bonnieh
01:32:55
There are many individual and class action lawsuits against Juul going on. Also yes, there was a congressional hearing last week: Link to Day 1 of the hearing:https://oversight.house.gov/subcommittees/economic-consumer-policy-116Link to Day 2 of the hearing: – when Juul was grilled:https://oversight.house.gov/legislation/hearings/examining-juul-s-role-in-the-youth-nicotine-epidemic-part-ii
bonnieh
01:33:09
and some coverage of the hearing: https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/juul-comes-under-fire-allegedly-hijacking-teen-anti-smoking-curriculum-n1034566Juul spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on programming for children and teens, documents ...Q13 FOXJuul spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to fund youth programming, efforts that a company employee said “seem to duplicate those of big tobacco ...Documents: Juul spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on programming for children, teens - wreg.comJuul targeted teens by spending over $200K on influencers - New York PostJuul exec: Never intended vaping device to be used by teens - KGO-TVFull Coverage
athomas
01:33:29
Do any states hazardous waste disposal have a recommendation for environmentally responsible disposal of nicotine delivery devices?
campbellb8
01:33:54
yes! if anyone could answer the question Teresa Detweiler asks, we would be appreciative - re: "safety" of JUUL device or anything proferred as "safe", "clean" or "healthy" as offered by JUUL or other e-cigarette companies. Thanks!
Ann Staples
01:34:03
North Carolina Operation Medicine Drop: https://ncdoi.com/OSFM/SafeKids/Operation%20Medicine%20Drop.aspx?sec=omd
Gretchen
01:34:14
Use the confiscated ENDS for educating people!
Taylor K
01:35:36
http://tobacco.stanford.edu/tobacco_main/publications/JUUL_Marketing_Stanford.pdf I've used this from Stanford in so many presentations!
Unknown Speaker
01:35:55 Ann Staples:https://www.hazardouswasteexperts.com/hazardous-waste-management-e-cigarettes/
Deanna England
01:36:04
I wouldn't reuse conviscated devices if they have lithiom-ion batteries. They are a fire/explosion risk.
bonnieh
01:36:32
The FDA ban on flavors currently doesn’t include mint/menthol despite the fact that youth use these flavors. We should be arguing for all flavors to be banned
jbrawne
01:36:47
How do you deal with all the negative responses that are vindictive and pointed at total disruption?
Ann Staples
01:37:06
Ignore and keep restating the facts.
Susan Morrison
01:37:27
Like FEHRAM, I am very interested in additional infomation from states that are including tobacco products in SBIRT work?
mgaitan
01:38:13
Bonnie, are any of the resources from the toolkit (fact sheets/infographics) available in Spanish?
bonnieh
01:38:46
we are translating the Toolkit to Spanish and other languages now
mgaitan
01:39:16
Thanks! Do you know when it will be available?
bonnieh
01:39:32
Hoping by end of summer for Spanish at least
Taylor K
01:39:35
Is there a list of those peer-groups kids can identify with?
Ann Staples
01:40:14
As defined by Rescue: Popular, Mainstream, Country, Alternative and Hip Hop.
mgaitan
01:40:43
Thanks Bonnie.
Taylor K
01:41:20
Thanks Ann!
Nicole Mayaen
01:41:35
Here is a link to the latest Rescue Agency youtube video about teen vaping: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTnkt9_NSlk&feature=youtu.be
Megan Moore
01:41:36
Rescue: https://rescueagency.com/health-topic/tobacco
lila.johnson
01:41:38
In the EPA's rule on "Management Standards for Hazardous Waste Pharmaceuticals and Amendment to the P075 Listing for Nicotine," e-cigarettes are considered hazardous waste and are subject to specific requirements for discarding.
nhall
01:42:35
Some of our students are using Juuls for dabbing.
Pattie.Barnes
01:43:11
Dabbing?
Lila Johnson
01:43:27
Is there a way to archive or send this group chat after the webinar? It has a lot of great links
Taylor K
01:43:32
We had 3 students in the same district sent to the ER for vaping THC during schools. The liquid got on the school resource officer and he had chemical burns all over his hands.
nhall
01:44:22
Dabbing is liquid THC in a pod.
Eboneka Coleman - ASTHO
01:44:38
Hello Lila, we will archive the group chat and prepare all of the resources to share out to the larger group.
Lila Johnson
01:44:56
Thank you
Cindy
01:45:28
Our SRO can test pods for THC.
snw0303
01:45:39
Especially now that Altria owns 35% of JUUL, there's no denying the connection to big tobacco
JennaKotsonis
01:45:39
You can save it on our computer.....next to file, click on the three dots and it will come up as an option.
nhall
01:45:39
What is SRO?
JennaKotsonis
01:45:55
school resource officer
Cindy
01:45:56
School resource officer
bonnieh
01:46:05
Yes, youth are using Juuls with other substances. While closed systems the Juul can be opened and other chemicals added
nhall
01:46:14
Thank you
Gretchen
01:46:36
I work for public health in Hennepin Cty, Minnesota, MN Department of Health put together a great resource on e-cigs...https://www.health.state.mn.us/communities/tobacco/ecigarettes/index.html
Nicole Mayaen
01:47:43
Just wanted to share another resource from Norfolk, VA that was tested by teens: http://rethinkvape.org/
jskelton
01:48:06
Dabbing is generally done using mod vape pens not pod vape pens (JUUL is a pod vape pen. Dabbing is the act of using a wax or wax-like substance which is mixed with another substance (i.e. THC, meth, etc.) heating it using the coil and inhaling the vapor produced- juul does not have the same coil setup as mods- much smaller. most JUUL have been being used for THC liquid.
nhall
01:48:27
What does the SRO use to test the pods for THC?
Frank Yaska
01:48:56
Bonnie- could you maybe expand more on nicotine concentration, please? I understand the 5% pods equate closer to 41.3mg, 3% closer to 35mg; Pack of Marlboro is closer to 21mg. I hear a lot of media stating Juuling is close to a pack of cigarettes, when my research suggest closer to two? Can we get some definitive guidance on how much more mg of nicotine compared to smoking? Thank you
BanzhafMD
01:50:08
Florida's Students Working Against Tobacco has a campaign #NotALabRat to engage students in not being "replacement smokers" for big tobacco's profits. Check it out: http://www.swatflorida.com/not-a-lab-rat/
scollins
01:50:18
Posters needed ASAP!
Taylor K
01:51:52
Does anyone have any opinions on the Vaping/Cotinine detectors in school bathrooms? Is it worth recommending to school administrators to install them>
bonnieh
01:52:18
need to be careful as they can have false positive and negatives
HEREESE
01:53:04
Sometimes the Vaping and Cotinine detectors pick up aerosols such as the Axe Body Sprays or Perfumes as well.
Trudy Brereton
01:53:10
we are testing out vaping detectors at the beginning of the school year this August. They are fairly expensive ($900 each).
EBye
01:53:42
Some posters from the CDC https://nccd.cdc.gov/MCRC/Apps/Search.aspx
scollins
01:53:49
Cessation is needed
jskelton
01:53:50
Taylor K.-When at a recent Mayo Clinic training on tobacco use and vaping- these detectors were not recommended as technology changes and they are definitive with false positives- not cost effective
athomas
01:53:52
Local schools here in CA are saying they are seeing too many flase positives. Also important to have staff who can address the positive tests in real time.
snw0303
01:53:56
I think it's also really important while talking with youth to keep positive norms in mind. Messages to different audiences mean everything. We can message the "epidemic" to adults, parents, school staff, etc. but with youth, we should make sure we are messaging that most youth their age actually AREN'T using these products
Gretchen
01:54:01
FDA and Real Cost just came out with new videos adn posters.
Gretchen
01:54:24
Posters are geared towards schools putting them in school restrooms.
bonnieh
01:55:05
We are creating new posters from the Toolkit too…stay tuned
JennaKotsonis
01:55:08
do you have a link to the detector?
Gretchen
01:55:26
https://www.fda.gov/tobacco-products/public-health-education-campaigns/real-cost-campaign
Neil Charvat
01:55:34
is anyone addressing the use of ENDS with with adults as modelling the behavior for youth?
SWC Cumberland/Salem
01:57:05
Neil, not that I have heard of specifically in NJ, but most school policies that are looking to include ENDS, ban them on the property (students, staff, and all visitors).
snw0303
01:57:52
We've had a few questions about the "detectors" but aren't promoting them, one because of low funding levels here and two because we are not necessarily trying to "catch" kids but help them address their addiction (vs. choice) and make sure they get screened, as many youth have multiple other issues going on if they're using tobacco and vapor prodcuts, such as mental health and other substance use.
Frank Yaska
01:58:17
Thank you panelists!
SWC Cumberland/Salem
01:58:34
Thank you all for the helpful information!
vbrochu@cadyinc.org
01:58:43
Thank you, really good resources listed
kgoble
01:58:55
There were PDFs shared in this chat... will they be available someplace else?
tammy
01:58:55
Thank you to all! Great resources.
CAShifler
01:58:59
Thanks for the resources!
MPLUMLEY
01:59:00
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scollins
01:59:01
Good Job! I learned a lot of valuable information.
Taylor K
01:59:07
At one point in time there were 299 people
jbrawne
01:59:07
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mgaitan
01:59:09
Thank you!
SWC Cumberland/Salem
01:59:10
239 participants
Becky Hatlee
01:59:17
Very helpful. Good ideas shared here! Thank you!
Sharon Tracey
01:59:28
Thanks to the panelists for all the really important information.
Alicia Smith
01:59:32
http://bit.ly/juuls2019
Yasmine
01:59:33
Definitely interested
snw0303
01:59:37
Thank you to everyone!
Alicia Smith
01:59:40
Please fill out the evaluation: http://bit.ly/juuls2019
ymikalopas
01:59:40
The Children's Oral Health program in NJ offers tobacco and vaped education in Middle and HS in NJ. NJ Dept of Health Website.
Yasmine
01:59:43
in the resources shared
Eboneka Coleman - ASTHO
02:00:06
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Alicia Smith
02:00:19
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